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To help keep the community alive and enjoyable we need some guidelines and rules. Please be sure to read them as they define what Locksport means to us and what topics are allowable.
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Thu Mar 24, 2016 10:39 am

I know it's just a guide but I like the idea of it being +1's too. Maby only 10 though. But at the same time down to the person trading to make there own rules but this may at least as Ucof said stop people just posting to get some locks
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Thu Mar 24, 2016 11:57 am

Changed to 10 rep points tup
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Thu Mar 24, 2016 12:33 pm

Cheers Mark! :)
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Thu Mar 24, 2016 1:54 pm

Probably a better idea, nice one gents.
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Sat Mar 26, 2016 10:39 am

Perhaps we need a rule that states posts should be written in English?

I'm sorry if that sounds douchey, it's not meant to.
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Sat Mar 26, 2016 12:40 pm

I think that would exclude most people lol
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Sat Mar 26, 2016 2:38 pm

markd wrote: I think that would exclude most people lol
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Thu May 05, 2016 10:51 am

This is my first time using a forum and the rules are a great help I just wish I had read them before I sent a PM to Waddac2c.

My apologies to him :sorry:
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Tue Jun 14, 2016 10:23 pm

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The link to 'selling rules' in rule 13 doesn't seem to work. Not that I want sell anything...
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Tue Jun 14, 2016 10:45 pm

Well spotted, link fixed.
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Mon Jul 18, 2016 12:18 pm

Hi, just curious, but why are auto locks and bypassing no-no's? Not overly concerned, but I like to dabble in all areas of lock opening.
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Mon Jul 18, 2016 12:29 pm

basically because it is not part of Locksport and also, I do all my picking in the hand so kind of difficult to hold a car - last time I tried I had a hernia lol

one reason is that we don't really want to attract those nice people who are just looking for a quick way to break in to cars or into other folk's property - we are a hobby site for enthusiasts and that is who we cater for
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Mon Jul 18, 2016 12:32 pm

Bypassing requires little to no skill and can be used by criminals to rob your shed. Picking requires practice and skill, even raking.
Auto is a whole other world that is usually left to professionals and theives.
Part take in all aspects of lock sport but leave some stuff of open forum and public domain.
The above is not taboo as we all do it but don't show to general public.
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Mon Jul 18, 2016 12:35 pm

A subject like auto locksmithing is a very specialized area, as well as sensitive one. They're also not usually a subject that guys new to locksport are going to get into because of the availability of locks to practice on, and the huge expense in tools.

Knowledge of auto locksmithing can also be very attractive to guys with a malicious intent, and to discuss this in an open public forum can lead to accusations. Of course, the same can be said about regular locks, and we watch that aspect by keeping guidelines such as not picking locks in use and not picking a lock that we have no permission to.

Another point to raise is that we are into this for sport, which is unlikely to involve auto locks.

Same goes for bypass techniques, but also they don't involve any skill as such, and so I would also not consider it as a sport.
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Mon Jul 18, 2016 12:43 pm

Ok thanks! Auto is a weird one as most (older) car door locks are just fancy wafer locks and offer little more than a mild deterrent to passers by. But I will respect the rules of the forum. As and when my whim takes the hobby further into the world of auto locks, I'm sure I'll be directed to the appropriate place to discuss it!
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Wed Oct 05, 2016 7:50 pm

Read the rules very sensible, love the forum can't wait to get started
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Mon Nov 28, 2016 2:05 pm

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Pickwizard wrote: Last edit: 26 July 2016


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0. Your First Post - your first post on the site should be in the new members section. Please do not post anywhere else until you introduce yourself - this is so that we can all get to know each other and welcome you properly into the community.

1. Destructive Entry - No destructive entry questions or discussions are permitted in an open forum, do not ask! This forum is purely a non destructive site dedicated to hobby lockpickers.

2. Vehicle Locks - Topics that include subject matter on vehicle locks (picking, bypassing or other method) are not permitted on the open forum .... because

3. Safes and Safe Locks - Topics that include subject matter on safes or their locking mechanisms are not permitted on the open forum .... because

4. Bypass Techniques - Topics that include subject matter on lock bypass techniques (including combination locks) are not permitted on the open forum .... because

5. Locks in Use - We are a locksport site, please do not ask about or show the picking of locks which are in use or do not belong to you ..... because and because

6. Registration Agreement - All members are expected to abide by the Registration Agreement they agreed to when signing up to be a forum member.

7. Competitions - A member running the competition can make their own rules, but unless otherwise stated, a member needs to have at least 10 rep points to enter a competition.

8. External Links - A member is allowed to post links to other sites, if they are relevant to the topic in question. If a member wishes to post forum links to any other site a link back to the forum is necessary, and permission must be obtained from the forum Admin

9. Signatures - Links to other sites in signatures are not permitted without prior permission from the Admin.

10. Copyright - Links to copyrighted material or plagiarising of material outside the forum are not permitted.

11. Issue Resolution and Final Decision - If an issue or decision cannot be settled by PM discussion or mediation, then Admin members will make a final decision. Discussion of issues should be in private rather than in the open forum.

12. Downloaded Material - Members accept responsibility to scan any materials downloaded from the forum for malware. Admin can accept no responsibility for any damage in these cases.

13. Login - A member is allowed one login to this forum, any member with more than a single login will be warned and if that is ignored, they will be banned. If for some reason a second login is needed, please contact the Admin. No exceptions to this rule.

14. Login - Please remember you must be 18 or over to use this forum.

15. Selling - A member is only permitted to sell items on the forum, if they abide by the Selling Rules.

16. Private Messaging - Please do not send Private Messages to members with unsolicited or cold questions. Use the forum, that's what it's here for, plus it helps others with the same question.

17. Private Message Contents - While Private Messages allow members to communicate outside of the forum topics, please remember these communications are stored in the forums database, and they are accessible by administrators, if required by law or that illegal activities or infringement of the forum rules is strongly suspected.

18. Forum Chat - All members are welcome to participate in the Forum Chat. Access is given through requests here, once a member has introduced themselves. However, if a member is seen to participate in abuse, spam or disharmony, access will be immediately withdrawn.

19. Play Nice - Complaints of harassment, flaming or insulting behaviour towards a member, Mods or Admin members can result in a temporary or permanent ban. This also refers to members whose forum activities become persistently difficult to deal with and interferes with the harmony of the community or the duties of Mods or Admin. In short, play nice.

20. Hacking - Circumventing, attempting to circumvent, or facilitating circumvention of forum access levels or security measures can be grounds for an immediate ban without warning.


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Mon Nov 28, 2016 2:26 pm

Hi Bumper@654, it appears that despite quoting all the rules, you failed to comply with the first one. Pop over to the 'introduce yourself' thread and tell us a little about yourself :)
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Mon Apr 10, 2017 9:57 pm

This might be stupid and I should know better but...
As Baldi writes
Baldiloks wrote: Bypassing requires little to no skill and can be used by criminals to rob your shed. Picking requires practice and skill, even raking.
Auto is a whole other world that is usually left to professionals and theives.
Part take in all aspects of lock sport but leave some stuff of open forum and public domain.
The above is not taboo as we all do it but don't show to general public.
Does this mean that I can pick a car lock for example but I'm not permitted to put it up on the "What I've picked today"-thread due to rule 2? As a continue to that lock, ok or not ok to send it forward to another member on the site? Use it as a part of a competition?

As I said above, it might be stupid questions and, just to be clear, it's not the rule I'm question. These questions comes more to know how to behave to not violate it. With Baldi's comment in mind.
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Mon Apr 10, 2017 10:14 pm

I think baldi's comment "we all do it "does not refer to auto locks

what we do in private is generally our own business but what we do/post on the forum is governed by the rules - no auto locks irrespective of the thread or purpose in the open forum

there is a VIP section where some rules are relaxed but I can tell you that I'd hard pressed to remember a time when auto locks were discussed and I can certainly not remember any car lock pass arounds or competitions etc

in the main, we are all here for locksport and car locks is not part of that

as the ocularly antipodean beringei sayeth: "Fek yer, yer feckin' fecks oil spike yers with me feckin' shiv-picks so I will"
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Mon Apr 10, 2017 10:52 pm

Right :) It looks like I read that post in a different way than it was supposed to. That makes sense.

I have no intentions to pass any auto locks around or start a competition with one involved, I felt more that better ask and look stupid for a while than not ask and walk in the dark if it was this or that. I appologise if I went over the line in any meaning, not what I had in mind but it happens sometimes when things comes out wrong.
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Mon Apr 10, 2017 10:56 pm

a lot of times in life it is better (more fun?) to ask for forgiveness rather than permission

but when it comes to forum rules, you did the right thing in getting clarification first
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Wed Jun 28, 2017 9:27 am

memee wrote: a lot of times in life the Bathmate X50 is better (more fun?) to ask for forgiveness rather than permission

but when it comes to forum rules, you did the right thing in getting clarification first
The rules are read!
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Wed Jun 28, 2017 11:50 am

Schaner wrote: The rules are read!
Rule;

0. Your First Post - your first post on the site should be in the new members section. Please do not post anywhere else until you introduce yourself - this is so that we can all get to know each other and welcome you properly into the community.

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Thu Jul 13, 2017 9:58 pm

Just another reminder of why we don't pick locks in use...

Just had a lad who got into trouble picking the front door lock with his new Southord set. Pick got stuck and he had to drill the lock out and with nowhere to get a replacement at this time of night he had to pay for a locksmith to come and sort it out for him.

On the plus side, he called me and I was able to give him an old lock to play with and I directed him to the forum so hopefully he will have learnt his lesson and has found a good hobby.
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